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with somebody like obama bin laden, it would be me and him and a baseball bat. if i want to be macho, i challenge you to an arm wrestling contest. i am telling you how i feel. 100 times over, i will give you the same answer. >> if we could keep this as simple as possible, quite difficult currently. this will change everything if you start to torture american citizens for committing domestic crimes inside america. am i wrong? >> you are not wrong. im as red blooded american as anybody and i go back to thomas jefferson who wanted to change the fifth amendment, which has complicated language about self-incrimination. he wanted an outright vote against torture under all circumstances. torture is unconstitutional, illegal, in violation of every international treaty. should never under any circumstances be used. where i agree with him and said it would be used if we had a ticking bomb terrorist case. if we actually had a situation where the choice was between letting the bomb go off and killing thousands of people or torturing somebody, every president what allow, even this president, would n
? >> reporter: that's right. hi. president obama i'm told by sources here was in the residence tonight watching television reports of the pursuit and that all the developments in watertown as we were, and he saw this go down just as we did. as soon as it was happening, he went over to the oval office to get the latest updates from his staff and then fbi director robert muller called him to officially let him know that the suspect had been captured alive. and he decided to come out and make a statement, i'm told by staff, and they brought in a local news from boston throughout the day so they could monitor actually some of the events all day long. they were revitied to the television just as we were. so the president updated throughout the day, and he is here back at work and ready to come in, brief the nation on a -- an exciting end and a, you know, successful law enforcement conclusion to all of this and the beginning of even more further investigation, piers. we're waiting for him any moment. >> before the president speaks, important to remind everybody again that as they've made this capture
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